Posts by joey jojo

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2017 Convention Video To Be Shown Regarding The 1975 Failure

by pale.emperor in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3arnnsfkk&feature=youtu.be.

no mention whatsoever that it was watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date.

instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not jehovah".. let's recap... .

joey jojo

I'm at work so I haven't had a chance to read all the posts here.

After watching the video my opinion is that they are not looking to set up another date. It seems to me that they are actually doing the opposite.

There are now grandparents in the org that truly believed Armageddon would arrive before they finished school.

This video is aimed directly at those of us born in the 60's and 70's who lived through the 1975 foolishness and the overlapping generation foolishness.

The message I'm hearing is, ' you now have to face the fact that you will grow old and die'.

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what is the rarest JW book?

by dogon in

what is the rarest jb book ever printed?

i just bought a copy of the finished mystery and it can be a bit rare.

but i bet there are others much more rare.

joey jojo

Skin, you mentioned a time when congs were told to get rid of the old literature. When exactly did that happen? A jw friend told me about this and how his cong literally burned the old stuff.

I was already fading when this happened so I missed the whole thing.

Is there anything on this forum about it?

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Has China Already Become the Equal of the USA - superseding the Knorr/Franz March of World Powers?

by fulltimestudent in

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i would personally say, this was going to happen, but not quite yet.

but then i noticed this recently published story in the south china morning post (a newspaper once owned by rupert murdoch, but now owned by jack ma, one of china's richest men).. quote:.

how china has become america’s equal, as showcased at a harvard forumauthor: robert delaneyon the campus of harvard business school this past weekend there was little doubt among corporate leaders and investors gathered for an annual conference that china had arrived as an equal to the united states.keynote speeches, panel discussions and a business pitch competition at the 20th annual harvard china forum convened under the theme “sharing the road ahead” in english.. and, i got to thinking about donald trump's reversal of all the things he said he was going to do to china in his campaign speeches, and the reality now that he acts as president of the usa.

joey jojo

Goldman Sachs predicts that by 2025 China's economy will be about equal to the U.S. and by 2050 will be double the size.

If it wasn't for the U.S. government bail-out of Wall St during the economic crisis of 2007, China would have withdrawn its money from the U.S. and that would have seen a collapse of the U.S. dollar.

As Obama said concerning the crisis; 'it was almost the end'.

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Circumcision....Perfect Adam....Uncircumcised....1st century Christians...circumcision ont required

by blondie in

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i know this has been discussed many times, but i was watching a news story about female genital mutilation (not female circumcision) and segued mentally into why the hassle about male babies having to be circumcised, christians especially.

even the wts flipflops on this...... if adam, the first perfect man, not under the jewish law code, was given a foreskin by god as an aspect of his physical perfection, why then do so many "christian" people have their boy babies circumcised?.

if a health issue....why did god create the perfect man, adam, with a foreskin?.

joey jojo

Q. What did the leper say to the prostitute?

A. Keep the tip.

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The wages of sin...

by joey jojo in

somewhere in the bible it says; the wages of sin is death.. just death.

not pain or anguish or agonising illnesses.

so , why do we have to endure all of the heart-breaking torment that goes along with life?

joey jojo

Somewhere in the bible it says; The wages of sin is death.

Just death.

Not pain or anguish or agonising illnesses.

So , why do we have to endure all of the heart-breaking torment that goes along with life? Isn’t it enough that we simply die?

Even if we maintained good health and lived to a decent age of 70- 80 as it mentions in the bible and then died, isn’t that paying what we owe? We still lose everything. Our loved ones grieve us.

I was always told as a child that loving God would not allow people to suffer in a hell-fire after-life. So why is it ok to suffer in life?

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How many in your generation are still JW???

by Christian Gutierrez in

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how many in your age group are still jehovahs witnesses?

from where we are at, there aren't many left.

each year it gets smaller and smaller haha .

joey jojo

When I was a kid, about 6 or 7 yrs old , our cong built a new hall and the local paper featured a picture of us all standing proudly out the front. This was about 1979.

Out of approximately 20 'young ones' in that picture, I believe only 3 are still attending meetings.

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A baffling physics question

by FatFreek 2005 in

for several weeks i've been treating myself to a hot chocolate milk (well, soymilk) before bedtime.

some 16 oz soymilk which i heat on high in our microwave oven.

this is just enough time where the liquid begins to bubble along the top edge.. i then take it out of the microwave and place it on my kitchen gram scale, stir it good enough to redistribute the heat, then reset the scale to zero grams.. next, i squeeze in the hershey's sytup, "special dark mildly sweet chocolate" (fat free) into the warmed soymilk till the scale reads some 30 grams.

joey jojo

Agree with Scully.

Has to be some loss on the spoon because you stir each time, plus a little in evaporation.

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River flowing from the garden of Eden

by joey jojo in

hey there.. if this point has been covered before please forgive me.. i have had the principles of noahs flood used by jw's to encourage me to attend meetings recently and this has got me musing about the flood....again.. genesis states that a river flowed from eden and branched out into four rivers, two of which being the tigris and the euphrates.. heres the baffling part; if it had never rained before, how is it that rivers existed before the flood?!!?.

a brief google search tells us that the euphrates begins its journey as snow melt and rain ( as most rivers do) in mountains in turkey.. ecc chapter 1 mentions the water cycle and describes the rivers flowing into the sea but the sea not becoming full.

how did it work pre-flood?

joey jojo

Pleaseresearch, I thought about rivers being spring fed and while I don't pretend to be a geologist, I can think of a few problems, especially if Genesis is to be taken literally.

The spring would have to have an enormous discharge to feed into and become 4 rivers.

Underground water is finite and without rain cannot replenish (as far as I know). So how many years before it runs out?

Assuming there were mountains before the flood, as Genesis says there was, the euphrates river would have to run uphill if it flowed OUT of eden.

Other scriptures describe the water cycle and specifically mention that rivers continuously flow into the ocean and the ocean doesn't overflow because the water keeps evaporating and is once again returned as rain. Using this biblical reasoning, it would suggest that without evaporation, spring fed rivers would overflow the oceans. An ever expanding ocean would also contradict Job (I think) that discusses the tidal boundaries.

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River flowing from the garden of Eden

by joey jojo in

hey there.. if this point has been covered before please forgive me.. i have had the principles of noahs flood used by jw's to encourage me to attend meetings recently and this has got me musing about the flood....again.. genesis states that a river flowed from eden and branched out into four rivers, two of which being the tigris and the euphrates.. heres the baffling part; if it had never rained before, how is it that rivers existed before the flood?!!?.

a brief google search tells us that the euphrates begins its journey as snow melt and rain ( as most rivers do) in mountains in turkey.. ecc chapter 1 mentions the water cycle and describes the rivers flowing into the sea but the sea not becoming full.

how did it work pre-flood?

joey jojo

Thx for the replies. Please assume that I am aware that scientific evidence does not support the flood account nor the general creation account.

My jw friend was guilting me into returning to the meetings and used the example of noah in that, although he had never seen it rain, he spent yrs building a giant boat to survive the mother of all rain events because of his faith. Also, once the door was closed, noone else can get in.

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River flowing from the garden of Eden

by joey jojo in

hey there.. if this point has been covered before please forgive me.. i have had the principles of noahs flood used by jw's to encourage me to attend meetings recently and this has got me musing about the flood....again.. genesis states that a river flowed from eden and branched out into four rivers, two of which being the tigris and the euphrates.. heres the baffling part; if it had never rained before, how is it that rivers existed before the flood?!!?.

a brief google search tells us that the euphrates begins its journey as snow melt and rain ( as most rivers do) in mountains in turkey.. ecc chapter 1 mentions the water cycle and describes the rivers flowing into the sea but the sea not becoming full.

how did it work pre-flood?

joey jojo

Hey there.

If this point has been covered before please forgive me.

I have had the principles of Noahs flood used by JW's to encourage me to attend meetings recently and this has got me musing about the flood....again.

Genesis states that a river flowed from Eden and branched out into four rivers, two of which being the Tigris and the Euphrates.

Heres the baffling part; If it had never rained before, how is it that rivers existed before the flood?!!?

A brief google search tells us that the Euphrates begins its journey as snow melt and rain ( as most rivers do) in mountains in Turkey.

Ecc chapter 1 mentions the water cycle and describes the rivers flowing into the sea but the sea not becoming full. How did it work pre-flood? Was there a constantly filling ocean?

I had never thought about a river in Eden contradicting the rainless, pre-flood world before so I thought I would share it. Once again, sry if its been mentioned previously.